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Upsetting GOP Libertarians, Eaton’s “Bootleg Young Republicans” Trash Talk Ron Paul

February 17, 2011

You might as well have trash talked Mother Theresa to Catholics.

You see, for many libertarians, Rep. Ron Paul of Texas is a kind of idol–indeed, he is even more than that to most. While not all Republicans like him, there are many individuals who associate with the Republican Party because they believe in the principles espoused or associated with Congressman Paul.

Which is why GOP Chairman Craig Eaton‘s newly formed “Bootleg Young Republicans” (a description used by the original Brooklyn Young Republican Club, led by recent Eaton target Jonathan Judge) are in some hot water this week. While attending CPAC (a fact which was not noticed or reported in any precincts besides Mr. Eaton’s affiliated blogs), members of Eaton’s newly formed political goon squad disparaged Ron Paul mercilessly on Twitter.

Here is a screenshot of the Twitter feed showing the disparaging remarks:


(Saying “Ron Paul and his ppl r CRAZY” and “Is Ron Paul serious?”)

Uh oh…

The same day that these insipid comments went up, Mr. Judge–the Young Republican President–issued an email condemning the comments as more evidence of disunity being fostered by the usual establishment cronies:

Since 1880, the Brooklyn Young Republican Club has always prided itself on our policy of openness and inclusivity within the Republican Party.  Whether you’re a Ron Paul libertarian, Rudy Giuliani moderate, or a Sarah Palin conservative, for instance, you’re always welcomed to get involved and kick off a career of citizen-activism with the Brooklyn Young Republican Club.

But meanwhile, the bootleg “OFFICIAL Brooklyn Young Republicans”, which we informed you was created two weeks ago by establishment Brooklyn GOP Chairman Craig Eaton as a means to “replace” our organization, don’t mind excluding and criticizing their fellow young Republicans for differing perspectives within the party, namely in this case, supporting Republican Rep. Ron Paulwho won the CPAC Presidential Straw Poll again this year.

…[M]utual respect and inclusion of diversity in Republicanism is what has always made the Republican Party stronger, not weaker, at the polls.   There’s more than enough opportunity to debate the issues respectfully and productively while working together on common ground.

Meanwhile, no response from the “GOP Bootleggers.”

As a blog that sympathizes strongly with the principles of libertarianism, these anti-Paul comments were not well received by the writers of Atlas Shrugs in Brooklyn.

We wish we could say we were surprised, but this is simply more evidence of the principle by which the Bay Ridge Cabal operates: exclusion, exclusion, exclusion.

And then we wonder why the establishment has been turning off fellow Republicans…


Also worth a read is Brooklyn Young Republican activist Roy Antoun’s piece regarding this whole incident.

  1. Ron Paul Supporter permalink
    February 17, 2011 6:11 pm

    As a Ron Paul supporter living in Park Slope, this offends me. I would hope the GOP would wise up and start recruiting Paul supporters in NYC. There are so many of them. I think I’ll be signing up for Mr. Judge’s young Republican club in the coming weeks. These other people seem lame.

  2. Shame permalink
    February 17, 2011 6:48 pm

    This has been noticed in Ron Paul circles. Shame on them.

  3. False "Young Republicans" wrap themselves in the same false-Catholicism that is so popular at their GOP Leader's Cathedral Club permalink
    February 17, 2011 7:17 pm

    The stench of phoniness coming from the gaseous Eaton-type GOP-platzers is enough to give something to the Tinman in TJIUA’s familiar wall-paper that he didn’t already have – nausea.

    Teresa of Calcutta was a hell of a gal in her day, but her place in the Catholic Pantheon doesn’t hold a candle to Ron Paul’s metaphysical transcendence to the Libertarians.

    If anybody should be offended by the comparison it’s the Libertarians.

  4. February 17, 2011 8:28 pm

    The future of the Brooklyn GOP lies not with “Park Slope libertarians” like the commenter above, but with conservative Jews who can’t stand Ron Paul, the most anti-Zionist Republican official.

    I can understand why Roy Antoun wants Ron Paul’s views to become part of the Republican mainstream because those are his views. I, however, can’t understand why any straight thinking Republican would ever think this would be good electoral strategy.

    • One singular sensation, every little step she takes... permalink
      February 17, 2011 11:51 pm

      …One thrilling combination, every move that she makes
      One smile and suddenly nobody else will do
      You know you’ll never be lonely with you-know-who

      One moment in her presence and you can forget the rest
      For the girl is second best to none, son
      Oooh! Sigh! Give her your attention
      Do I really have to mention she’s the one…

      Enough, about Eaton! Enough, about you! Enough, about us! “It doesn’t take much to see that the problems of three little people don’t amount to a hill of beans in this crazy world. Someday you’ll understand that.”[RB]

      • February 18, 2011 12:21 pm

        Yes, because the GOP’s current strategy is clearly winning them election after election in Brooklyn, isn’t it?

        Ron Paul is not “anti-Zionist” if he wants to cut all foreign aid to any country. It’s our money, not the government’s. If you vehemently believe in a cause, you can go ahead and voluntarily donate your own money to that cause.

        You can’t consider yourself a Republican if you believe in any ounce of government coercion in which your property is seized for the collective. Get real. You’re a Democrat if you think otherwise.

  5. Convenient Catholics permalink
    February 17, 2011 8:47 pm

    When was the last time Gene B. or Russell G. ever set foot inside any church, let alone Catholic one? Never mind Peter C, word has it they kicked his arrogant obnoxious butt out of his home parish, especially now that he is living in sin.
    The Brooklyn GOP needs to pick up the Bible and learn of tolerance and compassion. Do not hide behind a religion for its convenience for that is the epitome of hypocrisy.

  6. February 17, 2011 9:07 pm

    Why are you insisting on calling Craig’s friends and supporters every name in the book: cabal, sycophants, etc. What exactly classifies them as such other than your attempt to smear anyone who is on speaking terms with Craig?

    • John Galt permalink*
      February 17, 2011 9:26 pm

      A variety of our writers use colorful expressions, I will not deny. However, the reasons behind these expressions are entirely merited.

      Mr. Eaton surrounds himself with individuals who agree with him (an echo chamber of sorts) and banishes disagreement in any meaningful way. He is not looking for a team of individuals with diverse interests around the borough. The interests furthered by his lot are centralized mostly in his area of Brooklyn, namely Bay Ridge, or favor those that pledge fealty to him, such as District Leader Gallo or former candidate Cipriano.

      As such, these are not “smears.” They are logical descriptions of a party apparatus that resembles a feudal system more than it does an organization of individuals from all areas of the borough with differing opinions and perspectives. It’s not representative of Brooklyn Republicans.

      And I might add, these terms have been used by various media to describe political machines and apparatuses for over a century. So please don’t feign shock and horror over their use here…

    • Fontina Cheese Goes With That Whine permalink
      February 17, 2011 11:42 pm

      Peter? Peter, is that you?
      Yes, Mom, I’m up here
      with some friends.
      I wanna have your baby.
      Would you like some mini-pizza?
      You guys want some mini-pizzas?
      They’re good.
      They’re like mini-bagels,
      with pizza stuff on them.
      She’ll put a little fontina cheese on.
      She has palsy, so she ends
      up putting a lot of cheese on
      No, thanks, we’re cool.
      All right.
      Are you one of Peter’s
      friends from therapy?
      Yes, ma’am, I am. Look here, please.
      Would you like some mini-pizz…?

      Okay, first, get some contact lenses.
      Joints look like they pick up cable.
      Second, take her to Cambodia. Get
      her lobster. Pay more than a dollar.
      Third, the second y’all get back
      from Cambodia…
      …move your bum ass
      out of your mom’s house.

      Boy, you act like you 5 years old.

      All right, all right.
      And there ain’t no such thing
      as the tooth fairy.
      You wanna go to Cambodia?
      Hey, Mom?

      • I could be wrong, but "1" isn't going to like this one bit... permalink
        February 17, 2011 11:57 pm

        It starts with “Peter”; it mentions having babies…. Well, isn’t that enough?

  7. February 17, 2011 9:14 pm

    I can post in the original thread for some reason ( so let’s try here.

    You can’t even spell people’s names correctly, but you know that they “are personal agenda guys.” Cool…

    “Unfortunately, Storobin, Pevsner and Rosenberg have been soiled and polluted by their own hands and their chosen association”

    This is exactly what I wrote about before. Anyone who is on speaking terms with Craig must be smeared.

    What you are doing is nothing more than a pathetic attempt to intimidate people. Unfortunately for you, this never works. All the movement has been from Judge to Craig, and nobody switched from Craig to Judge.

    The only people still with Judge are those who don’t know Craig at all. Notice that all the people who were with Judge years ago are now with Craig.

    One day, Moshe, Roy and the rest of the present-day Judge group will switch sides too. And Jonathan will be out there looking for more newcomers who never met Craig.

    • February 19, 2011 4:46 am

      “One day, Moshe, Roy and the rest of the present-day Judge group will switch sides too. And Jonathan will be out there looking for more newcomers who never met Craig.”

      I’ve met Craig on two occasions. Don’t make silly assumptions.

      • What A Foney permalink
        February 19, 2011 6:59 am

        So Roy, you’ve met Craig two times, and are such a world
        renowned expert on who he is and what kind of a person he is? You
        and the rest of the Atlas Bloggers make it sound like you have
        known him and have been working with and dealing with him for
        years……You must be a genious to be able to judge (no punn with
        the idiot) someone on such a short relationship. You are nothing
        but a pathetic young man and should be careful what you say and how
        you say it, lest it come back to haunt you some day. Remember,
        these people will have very long memories.

      • James P. McCall permalink
        February 19, 2011 9:07 am

        Something to go along with what brother RA just said…
        I’ve known CE for a few years. I was the first candidate to
        actively campaign under his Chairmanship of the Kings County
        Republican Party. In part do to his efforts, and those of several
        still allied with him, I received a huge vote in his stronghold in
        southwest Brooklyn. For two years we worked together on several
        things, I thought trying to build a better, stronger and more
        effective Brooklyn GOP. When we had our first contretemps in 2009
        CE said, “I was told you were ‘part of the team’…”; that was
        right before he said, “…you’re off the team …” (maybe the rest
        some other time). Trying to “build” anything with CE is trying to
        build on a foundation of loose and shifting beach sand. I can’t say
        that I switched to anybody, since both the Brooklyn YRs (especially
        JJJ and BC) and the Fiorello La Guardia RRO (and all of my
        individual friends there) were with me and my campaign at the same
        time that I first met CE.

  8. Defending Atlas Shrugged permalink
    February 17, 2011 9:40 pm

    It’s amazing how people can’t separate what is written by the person running a blog and the comments put up on an open forum. If you go to YouTube, you’ll see some of the nastiest comments put up under perfectly normal videos about cats, dogs, Gandhi, you name it. Those are not comments put up by the creator of the video. The internet-challenged GOP people and some in the media keep saying that this blogs says nasty things against seniors and other ludicrous claims. Craig Eaton keeps saying that this blog attacks his family.

    That’s all completely untrue. I’ve never seen one single comment against Craig eaton’s family. I have seen coverage of controversy swirling around his MHE Foundation for tax reasons, but nothing personal against his family. I’ve never read a single anti-senior citizen thing written by the writers of this blog, but I have seen a few comments that mocked Gerry O’brien’s club as being “The Villages,” a senior citizen retirement home. That’s just a bunch of jokes, nothing more.

    I don’t usually write to defend blogs, but I felt this needed to be said because what the jig is up posts on its site is sometimes so vile, it can’t be repeated. They talk about people dying, bash Islam, go after orthodox Jews, and have attacked people’s family members regularly. Not just the comments. The writers too.

    I’m glad Atlas Shrugged doesn’t sink to the level of that other blog and keeps the discussion honest and lets me decide whether I agree with them or not. I haven’t always agreed with everything they say here, but I don’t think they’ve done anything wrong in how they address issues. More power to them.

    • February 17, 2011 10:58 pm

      “It’s amazing how people can’t separate what is written by the person running a blog and the comments put up on an open forum.”

      That’s because nobody believes you have any readers unconnected to you, and certainly none of the commenters. The same is true for the Jig, I am sure.

      I can’t imagine that someone who accidentally stumbled upon this blog via Google will leave a nasty comment about Craig (or about Jonathan). In fact, I can’t imagine them staying on this blog more than a few seconds.

      As hard as it is for you believe, you (and the Jig) are laboring only for your own eyes. Everything you (and the Jig) write is read only by Jonathan’s and Craig’s friends. Nobody else cares.

      I am convinced beyond a shadow of a doubt that the same people writing this blog are also commenting here, give or take 1-2 of their friends.

      • Not much of an imagination... shows how wrong one can be... permalink
        February 18, 2011 12:40 am

        I’ve never written a blog here. I do comment here very often.

    • Amen To That permalink
      February 17, 2011 11:02 pm

      Amen. So it is written…So it will be done.

      • Who are you? What don't you agree with? We won't stand for that... permalink
        February 17, 2011 11:18 pm

        We don’t have to always be right, as long as we’re never wrong.

  9. All Hail Craig permalink
    February 18, 2011 12:33 am

    I don’t know what’s in there,
    so step back.
    Craig, for real, man.
    Open the damn locker.
    He’s back! The light giver!
    All hail Craig! All hail Craig!
    Oh, Craig, can you see
    By the dawn’s early light
    You are the man who would be king
    of the train locker.
    Praise Craig!
    Oh, nasty and mean townsfolk
    of Locker C- …
    …did I leave anything here?
    Yes. Your soul.
    Left to darken our streets
    and hearts.
    I’ve been looking everywhere for it.
    Who are you, stranger?

    All hail Russell!
    All hail Russell!

    Oh,Russell, can you see
    Oh, merciful Russell, the keeper of…the fake Brooklyn YRs
    Come on.
    Wait! The commandments of the gun.
    The gun!
    The gun! The gun!
    The gun! The gun!
    We have lived by its word, and chaos
    has reigned throughout our world.
    Pass it on to others! So that they too
    may live with malice and be afraid!
    Be unkind! Avenge!
    Unreconcile your future..
    …in order to live in your past!

    Two for one every Wednesday.
    Give twice as much as ye receive
    on our most sacred of days.
    Every Wednesday.
    Large adult entertainment section
    in the back.

    That’s just nasty.

    All hail Russell! All hail Russell!
    Russell: Why did you put them rats in my locker?
    Craig: I thought it would put things in perspective for you.
    Russell: No, Craig, it’s actually kind of sad, really. We need to let them out of there. I mean, they need to know that the world is bigger than that.
    Craig: Still a rookie.

  10. I could be wrong, but "1" isn't going to like this one bit... permalink
    February 18, 2011 12:45 am

    It starts with “Craig”; it doesn’t mention the Brooklyn GOP Executive Director job…. Well, isn’t that enough?

  11. other blohs lost it permalink
    February 18, 2011 7:33 am

    I love that the other blog arnaldo, fred and lucretia equates golden, grimm and malliotakis by saying they have been silent on the Young Rep. Fiasco just as the republican elected have. I’m sure arnaldo, fred and lucretia don’t mind the equation.

  12. help me permalink
    February 18, 2011 7:48 am

    Eaton- “Marty, why won’t you defend me when even steve witt ask you for comment”. “Not even malliotakis, oddo and grimm are helping, what’s happening here”. “Its making me look bad and weak” “well at least arnaldo, lucretia and fred, the equals they are to marty, nicole, jimmy and michael also aren’t saying anything”

  13. i actually spoke to our 3 electeds permalink
    February 18, 2011 10:40 am

    I spoke to them and they said they didn’t support eatons “unceremonious” new YR club, and that’s why they have all have not commented publicly..sorry craigy..

  14. all hail permalink
    February 18, 2011 12:13 pm

    All hail Marty Golden, Nicole Malliotakis, James Oddo and Michael grimm for letting Eaton hang in the wind on this YR fiasco and not oublicly supporting him.

    • Already time to hang Golden and Malliotakis -- with Republicans like these, who needs... permalink
      February 19, 2011 12:25 am

      How proud we all must be that our new “conservative” Republican team Golden & Malliotakis are stqnding up and — fighting proposed cuts in state spending </?(*#!*??&%Q*< CuhRaShBOYnG *&^?(*#*&%Q???!!!

      What they said boils down to this:


      Throw these two bums out right now.

  15. Missed in all the Brooklyn GOP- Brooklyn YR hub-bub, an anniversary of MOMENTOUS PROPORTION permalink
    February 19, 2011 9:25 am

    Jefferson Davis was sworn in as President in some of
    “these” United States 150 years ago yesterday. Here are some of his
    innaugural remarks: “Gentlemen of the Congress of the Confederate
    States of America, friends, and fellow citizens: Called to the
    difficult and responsible station of chief magistrate of the
    provisional government which you have instituted, I approach the
    discharge of the duties assigned to me with humble distrust of my
    abilities, but with a sustaining confidence in the wisdom of those
    who are to guide and aid me in the administration of public
    affairs, and an abiding faith in the virtue and patriotism of the
    people…” The rest is history — by the victors.

  16. did eaton resign yet? permalink
    February 19, 2011 3:21 pm

    Just curious..last night Craig had a blowout with marty golden for still not releasing a statement supporting him.

  17. Craig Has No Right permalink
    February 19, 2011 7:23 pm

    Craig has no right to demand that Golden release a statement supporting him. Golden placed him there and Golden can take him away.
    Eaton has become a liability to Golden and has created too many enemies within his own party. At the end of the day, Golden will be the one to suffer retribution from Eaton’s egomaniacal activities.
    Word in Bay Ridge is that the Democrats are already screening viable conservative candidates to run against Golden in 2012.

    Lets see what happens next….

    • February 20, 2011 1:08 pm

      Why are you people just making stuff up? This never happened. You are trying to come up with stories to break Craig away from Golden just as you tried the same with Grimm a few days earlier. You are making up stuff.

      You have no insider sources. If you did, you’d know who was the person who got Jonathan off the ballot. That person repeatedly bragged about it to insiders and it’s barely a secret. It is also something that is very important to this blog.

      You have no sources. You know nothing. Stop lying.

      • ....Justin Brannan Plans On Running Against Marty, ......from bkpolitco permalink
        February 22, 2011 7:23 pm

        Life as a touring musician makes one yearn for the comforts of home. Only Indecision and Most Precious Blood guitarist Justin Brannan is taking it a step further. The guitarist, who has been a banker, bouncer and radio announcer, is considering a run for the New York State Senate in 2012.

        “I began to appreciate coming home to my neighborhood and New York City as a whole,” Brannan told Noisecreep. “Sometimes absence does make the heart grow fonder. Now that Indecision and Most Precious Blood aren’t touring as much, I started getting more involved with civic groups and different neighborhood activist clubs.”

        Brannan also said, “Getting into politics was just a natural progression for me. It was never something I dreamed of doing. But then again, I barely sleep, so there isn’t much time to dream. There is only time to do.” While many hardcore and metal musicians flap their gums about change and affecting society, Brannan is taking the old adage ‘Well done is better than well said’ and turning it into reality.

        “I gained an absolutely priceless education on the road, touring the world, and it most certainly contributed to my ability to move on to new challenges,” Brannan said. In addition to his potential Senate bid, he and his girlfriend are starting an art school for Brooklyn kids. “We want to give back to the community and keep punk rock alive,” he said. “And by punk rock I mean doing whatever you want. There are no rules. No lines to color inside.”

        Brannan is still in the planning stages with the political bid, but he’s got his eye on the prize. “In the world of politics, I’m still young and have a long way to go. In the world of hardcore, I’m a senior citizen,” he said.

        As for the platforms he is considering, Brannan views Albany as “the poster child for political dysfunction,” which is why he’s gunning for a Senate seat. “There is arrogance and complacency — an unfortunate symptom of incumbents going unchallenged and unchecked for years on end,” he reasoned. “There was a time when the Empire State was the model of efficient government throughout the country — responsible for some of the brightest government programs around. Today, our state government has been dubbed the most dysfunctional in the nation.”

        He points out that the state’s leaders are mired in the muck of rumors and scandals, corruption and collusion when they should be working together to solve problems and create solutions. “We the people have been consistently shortchanged by those we’ve bestowed the responsibility of representing our interests and our children’s interests. Rather than fighting for us, they have fought to maintain their own power and personal privilege,” he said.

        Furthermore, Brannan said, “I believe in common sense over politics and job creation over stimulus checks. I’m for tax breaks and incentives for small businesses and companies so they can create new jobs. I believe we need to reboot Albany and stop looking to New York City to fund New York State. I represent progressive Brooklyn: forward-thinking, diverse and dynamic Brooklyn, a Brooklyn that remains a unique melting pot of all cultures, faiths and languages, truly a home to everyone from everywhere.”

  18. Eyes in the Skies permalink
    February 19, 2011 7:43 pm

    word on the street is that JPM has something up his sleeve. can’t wait for the ip addresses to come to light so we can all see where all these comments come from. some even say that many originate from the NY court System…

    let’s see what happens next…

    • Danger, Will Robinson! permalink
      February 19, 2011 8:03 pm

      You know what they say about playing with fire…

    • Robot and Dr. Zachary Smith permalink
      February 19, 2011 10:27 pm

      Robot: I compute it to be an ionic directional probe searching for receiving outlets.

      Dr. Smith: Now come along with me, you ludicrous lump, there’s much to be done.

      Robot: I cannot accept that course of action.

      Dr. Smith: Yours not to question why; yours to do as I say or die.

      Robot: Warning! Warning! Alien approaching!

      Dr. Smith: Oh, Dear!

  19. The Jig -- Preparing for Court permalink
    February 19, 2011 10:28 pm

    I dont see how this “disclaimer” below will help the Jig, when the bloggers themselves have already violated the terms below.

    “Post a Comment
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    You agree that you, and not or its affiliates, are fully responsible for the content that you post. You agree not to post any abusive, obscene, vulgar, slanderous, hateful, threatening or sexually-oriented material or any material that may violate applicable law; doing so may lead to the removal of your post and to your being permanently banned from posting to the site. You grant to the royalty-free, irrevocable, perpetual and fully sublicensable license to use, reproduce, modify, adapt, publish, translate, create derivative works from, distribute, perform and display such content in whole or in part world-wide and to incorporate it in other works in any form, media or technology now known or later developed.”

    • Barndoors...horses... away permalink
      February 20, 2011 12:08 am

      That langauge wasn’t there yesterday, or the day before, or the day before that… or the first day December 30, 2009.

      On December 30, 2009 TJIUA began operating by posting the following the statement, “Coming Soon”.

      On December 31, 2009 TJIUA attempted to make a direct communication with “AAA” with “A Call to Potential Contributors” *** “If you are interested in writing, please contact us. *** AAA- where are you???”
      Then on the same day “TJIUA posted the first “The Question Begs?” by “AAA”. Later that same day in the commentary thread to the December 31, 2009 posting, “The Question Begs? ” by “AAA”, “The Jig Is Up Atlas” said… *** Welcome back to the discussion AAA.” to which came the response, “AAA said… *** The question begs, this reform minded commentator thanks the great staff at The Jig is Up Atlas for supporting the Truth. *** The question begs, as the answer has been allowed to be given.”

      All of this back and forth indicated that there had been a prior communication, understanding and coordination in the start-up, and the initial postings and operation of TJIUA between “AAA” and TJIUA.

      “Coincidently”, Gene Berardelli’s “Brooklyn Barrister” posted “Shrug Off Atlas — A Call for Unity” about two days prior to TJIUA going up for the first time. There is a provacative comment on the commentary thread to that post by Russell Gallo; and there is a very interesting remark contained in a comment by “The Jig is Up Atlas said…” soliciting “AAA” to write for TJIUA. So a similar “back and forth” actually appeared on Berardelli’s blog at about the same time as the one that was part of TJIUA’s startup.

  20. eaton rift with gallo permalink
    February 20, 2011 12:45 pm

    Notice how the other blog has post noting some QUEENS electeds supporting Gallo by appearing on blog show BUT still nothing from Golden, Malliotakis, oddo or grimm – BROOKLYN GOP electeds, supporting eatons new YR club..intersting- and telling–

    I wouldn’t be surprised if “egomaniac” eaton is psst at gallo and jig for posting this as he is not mentioned!

  21. objective observer permalink
    February 20, 2011 4:18 pm

    The other blog continues to equate fred, lucretia and arnaldo with golden, malliotakis grimm by just responding to the fact that these electeds have not supported eaton on the YR fiasco (despite eatons begging) with fred, lucretia, and arnaldo have not commenting. I’m sure fred, lucretia and arnaldo are thrilled but the fact is they are not GOP bklyn elected officials, the other blog is just tossing that out because they have no defense or explanation of the 3 electeds not commenting for eaton other than they have abandoned him. Very obvious to even casual observers.

  22. Young GOP Kid permalink
    February 21, 2011 4:30 pm

    Isn’t it funny how all the Jig can do is obsess over the Brooklyn Young Republicans, Jonathan Judge and Roy Antoun? They speak for the party establishment and all they can be bothered taking about is the real Young Republicans.

    Sounds like a bunch of people who don’t have a message.

  23. objective observer permalink
    February 21, 2011 10:27 pm

    Has craig eaton formed a truce with Golden yet for him not helping him with the yr situation yet?

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